Subject	Still have to disagree on the "bang for buck" theory
Posted by	ZXoltan on November 28, 2013 at 5:02 AM
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In Reply To	I'm not saying that buying cams eliminates the need for posted by aliaZ on November 27, 2013 at 10:33 PM
Message	Based on some dynos I've seen on this site, merely adding hi-po cams without dialing them in may result in worse numbers than running stock cams. This likely varies from engine to engine, but it is my observation. Even if its true in 1 of 3 cases, I wouldnt want to be the guy who just threw down a grand and my performance went down. IMO, better off to stay with stock cams until you're ready to invest $2k including adjustable gears.
Follow Ups	Got Bullseye? - aliaZ 14:25:32 11/26/13 Awesome! (n/m) - Aqualung 14:33:05 11/26/13 Re: Got Bullseye? - RobZ32 14:52:08 11/26/13 Nice. How much did that set you back? (n/m) - ZXRider 14:54:38 11/26/13 VTC upgrade was $65 - aliaZ 21:58:08 11/26/13 Thanks. I think my intake cams are on their last leg - ZXRider 10:48:16 11/27/13 Those are nice. - Evan_Wright (Ca) 15:16:37 11/26/13 2nd. No more sticker. Much nicer. (n/m) - Woody75 (Denver) 16:12:22 11/26/13 He will upgrade the intake sprockets - aliaZ 16:32:23 11/26/13 Any differences other than the scale etched in? (n/m) - ZXoltan 16:33:50 11/26/13 nope (n/m) - aliaZ 22:27:06 11/26/13 How much do these run? - -Grimm- 17:17:53 11/26/13 I'm assuming aliaZ isn't going to disclose the price - ZXRider 17:49:30 11/26/13 They're available thru most vendors: SZ, IPP, Z1 - ZXoltan 18:01:12 11/26/13 Is BDE now making/rebuilding the 90-93TT sprockets - ZXRider 18:30:04 11/26/13 Bingo! - RTZ32 (Houston) 18:36:35 11/26/13 since all of the aftermarket cams are 94+ style - aliaZ 22:01:24 11/26/13 People don't degree stock cams? (n/m) - ZXRider 01:03:41 11/27/13 I suppose you could degree stock cams - aliaZ 01:15:02 11/27/13 Just yesterday, Greg told me the stock 5spd cams work better - ForceFedTT (SoCal) 09:51:08 11/27/13 The regrinds are the JWT mild cams. The 400, 400+ and 500s - MixManMash 15:35:58 11/27/13 I wasnt commenting on the 400s or 500s. - ForceFedTT (SoCal) 15:22:31 11/28/13 You can get gains by advancing stock intake cams - -Grimm- 10:00:01 11/27/13 you'd get more bang for your buck to buy cams - aliaZ 18:05:14 11/27/13 But then you need adj exhaust gears b/c the JWT cams - ZXoltan 22:22:43 11/27/13 I'm not saying that buying cams eliminates the need for - aliaZ 22:33:13 11/27/13 Still have to disagree on the "bang for buck" theory - ZXoltan 05:02:11 11/28/13 Case in point - ZXoltan 05:16:49 11/28/13 yup, just the 400+ cams alone were worse than my stockers - vorpalZ 11:49:20 11/28/13 did you by chance check your cam timing when you originally - aliaZ 02:06:06 11/29/13 thanks (n/m) - aliaZ 01:56:17 11/29/13 I have raised this question about the JWT cams - ZXoltan 11:05:17 11/30/13 I talked to Mike Smith about it - aliaZ 16:44:00 11/30/13 Thanks for the info- Nice to have a hotline to MS ;-) - ZXoltan 09:12:19 12/01/13 upgraded the standard BDE intake sprockets to bullseye - aliaZ 21:59:20 11/26/13 Good to know. Thanks (n/m) - Evan_Wright (Ca) 19:14:05 11/26/13 Agreed. I'll have to upgrade mine next round. (n/m) - MixManMash 08:21:27 11/27/13 Yes sir. Just got customs built for my 91. (n/m) - RTZ32 (Houston) 17:26:26 11/26/13 A deadline, awesome news! - maglito 20:04:28 11/26/13 Other than degreeing the cams what other benefits do they - TTZ2NV(EPTmotorsports) 04:00:37 11/27/13 OEM VTC cam gears can start leaking oil or make noise. - MixManMash 07:52:50 11/27/13 yep - aliaZ 07:58:46 11/27/13 Thanks for the knowledge brothaz !!!! (n/m) - TTZ2NV(EPTmotorsports) 13:10:31 11/27/13 main reason i bought mine - LJZTT 18:37:22 11/27/13
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